Comments on: Towards an Integral Science of Consciousness http://dreamstudies.org/2009/01/28/integral-science/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=integral-science the dream studies portal Tue, 22 May 2012 20:25:13 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Ryan Hurd http://dreamstudies.org/2009/01/28/integral-science/comment-page-1/#comment-588 Ryan Hurd Sat, 29 May 2010 21:09:35 +0000 http://dreamstudies.org/?p=534#comment-588 thanks for responding. I don't think your experiences are a cause for alarm --- sorry I gave that impression. there is always a continuum of severity with sleep parasomas, ranging from quirky to irritating to dangerous. Parasomas can also be a great source of self-knowledge if they are not disrupting too much sleep. thanks for responding. I don’t think your experiences are a cause for alarm — sorry I gave that impression. there is always a continuum of severity with sleep parasomas, ranging from quirky to irritating to dangerous. Parasomas can also be a great source of self-knowledge if they are not disrupting too much sleep.

]]> By: Shelby http://dreamstudies.org/2009/01/28/integral-science/comment-page-1/#comment-587 Shelby Wed, 26 May 2010 23:15:22 +0000 http://dreamstudies.org/?p=534#comment-587 Thank you. I don't think its too serious though because i never act out violently but the fact that it has been occuring more frequently interested me. I'll defintely research some more. -Shelby Thank you. I don’t think its too serious though because i never act out violently but the fact that it has been occuring more frequently interested me. I’ll defintely research some more.
-Shelby

]]> By: Ryan Hurd http://dreamstudies.org/2009/01/28/integral-science/comment-page-1/#comment-586 Ryan Hurd Tue, 25 May 2010 02:23:19 +0000 http://dreamstudies.org/?p=534#comment-586 hi Shelby, thanks for commenting. It sounds like you are sometimes acting out your dreams physically -- this could be a sleep condition known as REM Behavior disorder. It tends to happen when people are stressed, but it can also have biological roots. I would recommend checking out a sleep doctor in your area and getting accessed. RBD can be dangerous -- about 20% of cases end with people hurting themselves or others unintentionally. Here's an article with more info: http://www.sleepassociation.org/index.php?p=rembehaviourdisorder hi Shelby,
thanks for commenting. It sounds like you are sometimes acting out your dreams physically — this could be a sleep condition known as REM Behavior disorder. It tends to happen when people are stressed, but it can also have biological roots. I would recommend checking out a sleep doctor in your area and getting accessed. RBD can be dangerous — about 20% of cases end with people hurting themselves or others unintentionally. Here’s an article with more info:
http://www.sleepassociation.org/index.php?p=rembehaviourdisorder

]]> By: Shelby http://dreamstudies.org/2009/01/28/integral-science/comment-page-1/#comment-585 Shelby Sat, 22 May 2010 08:32:14 +0000 http://dreamstudies.org/?p=534#comment-585 Hi, My name is Shelby and I have been researching about lucid dreaming since i think i have been having them. Recently there has been a lot of family issues going on and i think that might be a reason for them but sometimes they worry me. For an example, i will have a friend spend the night and that night i will dream about random things. Like once i dreamed someone told me it was snowing outside. i immediately jumped out of bed and looked out the window and said, "whatever" and went back to bed. i think the fact that i jumped out of bed partially woke me up, but this was only the first time i started acting out on my dreams. later on in the year i would dream about my boyfriend as i had a friend spend the night. she tells me the next morning i was patting her head, and another time i put my head on her shoulder. the weird part is, is that i slightly remember but at the same time i dont think i was concious. Just last night i had a dream that i was in an intensive care unit at a hospital and i was dreaming (not that i was aware of me dreaming, it was like i was watching myself at this hospital moving around). at the hospital i begam sleep walking, not having control of what i am doing, but at the same time concious. i walked to the other end of the hall towards a teacher i know, with my eyes rolled in the back of my head and stumbling as i tried to write on a piece of paper that i was dreaming and i couldnt wake up.. this is how i normally feel. as if i know what im going, im partially concious but at the same time dreaming and not in control. what worries me is that i actually act on my dreams by moving around, sometimes i wake up on the floor. Why is this happening? and what is this called? where can i learn more on it? -Shelby Hi,
My name is Shelby and I have been researching about lucid dreaming since i think i have been having them. Recently there has been a lot of family issues going on and i think that might be a reason for them but sometimes they worry me. For an example, i will have a friend spend the night and that night i will dream about random things. Like once i dreamed someone told me it was snowing outside. i immediately jumped out of bed and looked out the window and said, “whatever” and went back to bed. i think the fact that i jumped out of bed partially woke me up, but this was only the first time i started acting out on my dreams.
later on in the year i would dream about my boyfriend as i had a friend spend the night. she tells me the next morning i was patting her head, and another time i put my head on her shoulder. the weird part is, is that i slightly remember but at the same time i dont think i was concious.
Just last night i had a dream that i was in an intensive care unit at a hospital and i was dreaming (not that i was aware of me dreaming, it was like i was watching myself at this hospital moving around). at the hospital i begam sleep walking, not having control of what i am doing, but at the same time concious. i walked to the other end of the hall towards a teacher i know, with my eyes rolled in the back of my head and stumbling as i tried to write on a piece of paper that i was dreaming and i couldnt wake up.. this is how i normally feel. as if i know what im going, im partially concious but at the same time dreaming and not in control. what worries me is that i actually act on my dreams by moving around, sometimes i wake up on the floor.
Why is this happening? and what is this called? where can i learn more on it?

-Shelby

]]> By: Allan Hobson and the Neuroscience of Dreams | The Dream Studies Portal http://dreamstudies.org/2009/01/28/integral-science/comment-page-1/#comment-584 Allan Hobson and the Neuroscience of Dreams | The Dream Studies Portal Thu, 21 Jan 2010 21:13:44 +0000 http://dreamstudies.org/?p=534#comment-584 [...] paradigm has already bracketed out those subjective queries.  And, besides, armed with an integral approach to science, learning about the material correlates to an extraordinary experience is not threatening to the [...] [...] paradigm has already bracketed out those subjective queries.  And, besides, armed with an integral approach to science, learning about the material correlates to an extraordinary experience is not threatening to the [...]

]]> By: Dungan http://dreamstudies.org/2009/01/28/integral-science/comment-page-1/#comment-583 Dungan Thu, 05 Mar 2009 23:01:35 +0000 http://dreamstudies.org/?p=534#comment-583 Yeah, I think it was Einstein who said that problems can't be solved by the same minds that created them. I tend to agree - this is basically the position of "mysterianism" which is summed up well here: http://integral-options.blogspot.com/2009/03/derek-ball-new-new-mysterianism.html Yeah, I think it was Einstein who said that problems can’t be solved by the same minds that created them.

I tend to agree – this is basically the position of “mysterianism” which is summed up well here: http://integral-options.blogspot.com/2009/03/derek-ball-new-new-mysterianism.html

]]> By: Tracy http://dreamstudies.org/2009/01/28/integral-science/comment-page-1/#comment-582 Tracy Sat, 31 Jan 2009 10:53:48 +0000 http://dreamstudies.org/?p=534#comment-582 Professor Coates: "How do the qualities that manifest themselves in experience relate to the very different properties that are referred to in scientific descriptions of the physical world???? I tend toward the simple (I hear my friends laughing as I say this), but the answer for me to all this is that consciousness exists beyond the body. Of course science based in matter ("the physical world") can't fully understand consciousness or even see it. It can and should point in awe, and let's hope it does eventually, but it will never understand. "The problems created on this level of consciousness cannot be solved from this level of consciousness" I'm forgetting who I'm quoting here... but in other words, a lower level of consciousness (matter) can't encompass a higher level (spirit). I know I just ignorantly stepped in some academic poo here, but it is my way. This is all a paradox of course. Consciousness choosing to arise in matter so as to experience itself in material form. Identification with matter sometimes ensues. Science is born eventually and reductionism occurs. Eventually that's corrected when matter realizes its limits and looks in the mirror to see why it's limited and sees limitless consciousness looking back at it through material eyes.... Professor Coates: “How do the qualities that manifest themselves in experience relate to the very different properties that are referred to in scientific descriptions of the physical world????

I tend toward the simple (I hear my friends laughing as I say this), but the answer for me to all this is that consciousness exists beyond the body. Of course science based in matter (“the physical world”) can’t fully understand consciousness or even see it. It can and should point in awe, and let’s hope it does eventually, but it will never understand.

“The problems created on this level of consciousness cannot be solved from this level of consciousness” I’m forgetting who I’m quoting here… but in other words, a lower level of consciousness (matter) can’t encompass a higher level (spirit).

I know I just ignorantly stepped in some academic poo here, but it is my way.

This is all a paradox of course. Consciousness choosing to arise in matter so as to experience itself in material form. Identification with matter sometimes ensues. Science is born eventually and reductionism occurs. Eventually that’s corrected when matter realizes its limits and looks in the mirror to see why it’s limited and sees limitless consciousness looking back at it through material eyes….

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